Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. So who is he talking about? Thankfully, I had headphones on. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. Christians should stop feeding these people. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. Hes not qualified. How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. . ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. How does this relate to his view of women? Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. So for Jim McDonald to say that he didnt remember like, Im not buying it, right? He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. I dont know whether its the way way down or the way back Id have to reread the letter, but I mean, they stopped and went to the DR,. Its loving to give medicine to a sick patient, and its loving to speak the truth to a deceived person.. . Honestly dont to this day. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). Theres a number of narratives out there right now about how these letters came to the elder board. And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Literally more than two dozen people. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. pretty rotten.. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. I remember that too. . TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. And so I felt relief. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. MacDonald is a successful American religious entrepreneur. No, Im just reporting. And now think about this. Hes a deceiver. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. Wives submit to your husbands. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. Pastor James MacDonald. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. Julie. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. And I dont know what his exact words were, but it was basically dont you dare read scripture to me. I shouldnt be doing this. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. And I know its cost you personally. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. And they said, I remember Dan telling me that that James slammed his fist on the table. Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . Yes, yes. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Anne Green, who is married, alleged that MacDonald touched her inappropriately on a private plane in 2005. And I was still on the board. The Roys Report reached out to MacDonald with questions about the email, which he would not answer on the record. And I want to help people lead the church well. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. Shame on you for reading scripture! And we were at an absolute stalemate. You disseminated down to the elders, and then that became really the sticking point for James, wasnt it? And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. That would be acceptable teaching. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. Hi. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. And if he doesnt, what does that mean in terms of employment at Harvest Bible Chapel? But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Right? I look back at those meetings. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. But according. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Five of the six have been published. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. If you wind back and in in elder meetings, I remember it being said by several several people, years before, if people start arguing the process, you know, you have them right up there arguing in the process. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. No, it wasnt edited. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. But this is a story that just is not going away. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. Also, in addition to those, you have the letter that was written by eight former elders at Harvest, who brought them in 2012, to the elder board, and within 24 hours, were excommunicated for bringing charges against James McDonald. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. Thanks that is hilarious!! Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. Theres 30 men in the room. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. Had they reached all the elders at this point? We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. Hes asking for money. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . Thats about my attitude lately. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. It does. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! The airing accelerated the timeline. I think, how is it that we had the word of God sitting in front of us, which is pretty clear about what to do. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. That was you, wasnt it? Thats what the weight was. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. So, Julie Roys decided to do what she does best - investigative journalism - in order to find out the truth in the world of m. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And I checked my voicemail. And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. I remember waking up that morning. Like, I cant believe this. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. Lets try little role reversal here. I wish I didnt. Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. So you werent part of the lawsuit. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? I did not. And again, this was on the churchs dime. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. God will deal with him. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. And then out of the blue, I get slapped with a lawsuit from James McDonald before I published anything. This is going amongst the elders now. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . No One Knows. Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. And Im just trying to smear him. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . Yeah Cynthia. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And I gotta tell you, the people of Harvest, the people who were there before, the people who were still there, were so forgiving. And we were at a stalemate. On that Haiti trip. I need to repent. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. You have exemplified godly leadership and godly character. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. To donate, click here. Ugh. Thank you Jesus, Amen. Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. Very interesting discussion. Come out of her, my people. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . And that would have been right before you came back on the board. Yeah. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. None of those charges were looked into. Why is that? What what were you thinking? But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. Yes, it is. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. I was literally sitting in a hotel lobby waiting for a pickup at one oclock in the morning to catch an overnight flight back from India. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. I also knew that I needed to talk enough so that it wasnt like, well, this whats whats going on with him? I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. Leslie said: Julie Roys is a Christian investigative reporter who has called out some big names, and she has suffered for it. Is that an accurate representation? And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. I certainly am no Bible scholar. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. Its funny how things turn out, and this situation isnt wrapped up, yet. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. You know, Ive been here the whole time. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. SMH. Its so interesting. I remember as a young pastor first hearing about James at a 2002 Moody Pastors Conference and reading his well written book on hermeneutics with an apologetic leaning and being blessed from his book. Nearly 30 pages, innumerable charges between all those people, Julie, they served on the staff of Harvest Bible Chapel for somewhere between 40 and 50 years collectively. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . You can unconditionally love someone. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. This was a many time thing. Marin, That way youll never miss an episode. I hope you have a great day and God bless. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. Thank you. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. You know, while while I was an overseer, I didnt know it. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 But some of these people, for 10 years or more, had been maligned. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. I have them up at my website if you want to see those. Because Im not a quiet guy in meetings. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. She declined. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. I had been investigating Harvest for months. James MacDonald. I knew what the topic was. You cant unconditionally support anybody. Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. To myself, I said, and do our job. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. And everybody had to say, right? Im sad for his fall. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. And I dont need to know. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. If youre truly interested in hearing other views ask why or tell me how you landed there. And you got all of them. So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. I payed for you and James. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. You dont know how I got ahold of them. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. He was in the many meetings leading up to McDonalds termination. 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